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This is similar to my empirical testing in the Kzinti Reverse thread. Range bits do diddly for thrust/fuel [note the terminology change]. Thanks for the rate amplifier tip; I'll be removing them from all future designs.

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Becuase the rate amplification compounds the damage per shot added by the damage multipliers, the optimal combination is not a constant ratio. How much energy you're willing to spend matters too.

If I had any numbers at all for the kickback of the projectiles, I could generate some useful formulas here.



With all of this, I'm not sure that a weapon for the purpose of thrust is very useful, since the AI doesn't know how to use it.


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The whole point of the over-optimization is to generate agents that pose a real challenge to players (at least for me). If the AI has no idea how to use the 'thruster', then why create an agent with this capability? However, it is also true that the optimization itself, whether it be for the purpose of creating agents, or for the purpose of creating ships that are seriously OP when player-driven, can be considered an endgame challenge.

I would like to see the AI get smarter about weapons with kickback. I think it would make designing ships surprisingly interesting. Still, the weapon on my Tinkrell destroyer costs more than 4k P, so you can't have two pointing in opposite directions. While having two slightly weaker weapons technically would result in a higher overall DPS, only half of it is directed in a useful place at a given time under most circumstances. For this reason alone, I would not design a ship that uses the kickback of a weapon to cancel the kickback of the main cannon.

BTW, the farmers are really hard to optimize, but you can summarily discard some of their weapons, as they are subsumed by others. For example, there is never any reason to use any laser other than the Arkus PRP-1. It has better range and a higher damage/(second*P) than any other laser in that faction. It is similarly a waste of time to use the HC2 or HC3, as they are subsumed by the MC3 in the same way.


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